Lost in the West and Lost in the East - Tropical vs. Vedic

Peace family,

I wanted to write this blog post to clear up misunderstandings about vedic/ sidereal and tropical astrology. First things first we must understand that how we perceive the stars and the positions we see them in are not where they actually are.

We perceive it that way based upon our ecliptic, our position and rotation around this solar plexus we call our sun (I'll explain further on other blog posts). How the stars move and when their influence reaches us is relative to us being on earth.

This is where the confusion happens between the systems of astrology.

Any vedic astrologer that gives you a reading or birth chart with only 12, or even worse, 13 zodiac signs is either a fraud, or simply confused and not well versed in astrology. Vedic is supposed to be our higher astrological clock and consists of all the constellations and fixed stars. the scope of vedic is much larger than tropical.

Leaving out the other fixed stars and only talking about the 12 is filtering Vedic or through a tropical lens (what sidereal is). When you leave the earth's atmosphere and enter space (past the earth's orbit which is as far as our "spaceships" can go) then yeah it would look like Pieces is where Aries is supposed to be. This happens when you go beyond what is surrounding earth and is why degrees and other constellations matter in vedic.

The fixed stars move 1 degree every 72 years. The last time they moved was in 2012. This is why the mayan calendar ended on that year and why people ran around talking about the end of the world. 2012 was the end of that 72 year cycle.

It wasn't only the end of that cycle but the end of several cycles which is why so much significance was given to that year. I will go deeper in future blog posts but for this one, for relating vedic to tropical this 72 year cycle is what needs to be over-stood.

This is the reason why Vedic tells you that you are the the sign before yours. They know that the stars move, and from the time when we started recording the stars the way we do the zodiacs have moved an entire sign on our higher cosmological clock. How things would look with a deeper and wider scope.

The fixed stars aren't all the same distance from us, some are closer and some are farther. It works kind of like the planets. Saturn and uranus are farther from earth then venus or mercury. So their movements look a lot slower in comparison even though they are moving rapidly. This is why planet alignments in Uranus and neptune are more of a generation thing.

Now apply this to the zodiacs and all the other constellations. The stars and constellations closer to us have the biggest, most recurring effect on our lives. This is why tropical is more accurate or better yet more practical.

Getting into vedic is giving higher awareness to energies surrounding us. How farther stars relate and influence the stars closer to us. Look at Tropical as your conscious astrological makeup and vedic as the subconscious astrological makeup, that may sound weird but let me explain.

For example you would get one of those confused vedic astrologers telling you that you are a Pisces when you are an Aries. Thats the wrong way to explain it. You are an Aries backed by Piscine energy. This is how the two systems should be blended But even this view is not entirely correct because it excludes all the other constellations in the sky.

This is why degrees matter. As you move through the degrees of Aries the constellation father away backing and supporting it changes to. Even though some stars look close to each other in space, they are light years apart, so moving one degree when we are looking at the higher clock can move you to an entirely different constellation.

17 degrees Aries lands on Nodus 2 Which is a star in the Draco constellation. 14 degrees Aries is Alpheratz which is a star in the Andromeda constellation. 10 degrees taurus lands on Achird, a star from cassiopeia.

This would mean that 17 degrees Aries is backed by Draco energy, 14 degrees Aries is backed by andromeda and so on and so on through out all the signs.

However in some rare cases you can have one of the 12 zodiacs overlap.

For example my moon is on 8 degrees Sagittarius. This lines me up with the fixed star Antares. Antares is located in the heart of the Scorpio constellation. It’s at 9 degrees now but what matters is where it was when you were born. This is Sagittarius being backed and supported by Scorpio energy.

There are also degrees that are pure to their signs as well. All depends on when and where you were born.

Hope you find this blog post helpful and that I answered your questions (:

- OPEN B.O.O.K